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Zoning
Board Minutes - March 1, 2004
Those present at the March 1, 2004 meeting were:
George Hansen – Chairman
Allan Tedrow – Vice Chairman
John Ouimet
Richard Drake
Raymond Rose
Chairman Hansen called the meeting to order at 7:36 p.m.
There was no meeting in February. Motion was made by Mr. Ouimet and
seconded by Mr. Drake that the minutes of the January 5, 2004 meeting
be approved. Motion carried.
Ed Dalston, 116 Route 236, Use Variance
Mr. Hansen opened the Public Hearing at 7:40pm. Mr. Ed Dalston
(applicant) was present to seek a use variance by requesting an
approval to allow two residential dwellings on one parcel. Mr. Dalston
explained that there is an existing residential home and a garage type
structure on the residential zone parcel located at 116 Route 236 in
the Town of Halfmoon. Mr. Dalston continued that the existing type
garage structure is approximately 80 ft. from the existing home and
would not serve the needs of a garage for the existing house. That
being, the applicant constructed a detached garage for the existing
house. The garage type structure was formerly used as a paint store
before zoning in the Town of Halfmoon and is considered a
pre-existing, non-conforming structure. The applicant desires to
refurbish the pre-existing, non-conforming garage type structure into
an apartment. Mr. Dalston stated the apartment would be constructed to
have 2-bedrooms, a kitchen, a living area and a loft.
Mr. Tedrow asked where the driveway would be located. Mr. Dalston
explained that there is wide access area for the pre-existing
non-conforming building but understands the need for a NYSDOT curb cut
permit. Mr. Tedrow asked if municipal water and sewer is available.
Mr. Dalston explained that there is no public sewer available but the
existing house is serviced by public water. Mr. Dalston continued that
there is an easement for water through the existing duplexes located
on Fellows Road. Mr. Ouimet asked if the proposed apartment building
could tie into the public water system. Mr. Dalston stated he could
tie off from the water service to his house to serve the proposed
apartment. Mr. Hansen stated that there is a main sewer line being
installed in the front of the parcel, along Route 236, but would not
be able to be connected due to the sewer line being a force main. Mr.
Ouimet asked if the sight distance is adequate for the new curb cut.
Mr. Dalston stated that the sight distance is very good and has been
improved by his cutting down an earth bank. Mr. Drake asked if the
Zoning Board should have septic information before making a decision.
Mr. Hansen explained that the parcel has adequate lot area for a
two-family residential unit with the availability of private septic
and public water according to the Town’s Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Hansen
continued that the applicant would need to submit septic information
at the time of applying for a building permit. Mr. Drake asked if the
proposed apartment would be considered as an accessory building. Mr.
Hansen stated the proposed apartment would be considered as an
accessory building with the existing house as a primary structure. Mr.
Hansen continued that the proposed apartment has never been occupied
and that it was originally a paint store. Mr. Drake asked if the
Zoning Board has ever had a similar request in previous years. Mr.
Hansen stated yes and that most were new structures to be built and
not renovation of an existing structure and some have been disapproved
because of the lot being too small for a two-family building. Mr.
Ouimet asked if there are any external structures proposed for the
apartment such as a deck or porch. Mr. Dalston stated that he may
build a small deck on the rear of the building and that there would be
no external improvements in the front toward Route 236. Mr. Tedrow
stated that when the applicant approached the Zoning Board for a
discussion topic in January 2004, it was his opinion to have the land
subdivided to separate the two uses (house and proposed apartment).
Mr. Tedrow continued that due to the fact that the parcel has frontage
on a main highway, he believes it would be of the best interest for
the Town to keep the parcel whole for possible future development.
Mr. Hansen added that if the applicant were to subdivide the parcel it
would cause the need for several variances (lot area and lot width)
and the boundary line would be very erratic. Mr. Ouimet stated he
understood that the Town’s attorney was to research the issue of two
residential units on one parcel. Mr. Hansen stated he received a
correspondence from the Town’s attorney stating that the use variance
procedure of allowing two residential units on one parcel is the best
approach for the applicant for the Town instead of an area variance
caused by the subdividing the land. Mr. Drake asked if there would be
the need for an area variance for the proposed apartment building due
to it not meeting the front-yard setback requirements. Mr. Hansen
stated the building is a pre-existing, non-conforming structure, which
was built before Zoning laws were in affect in the Town and that the
front yard area is not a factor. Mr. Ouimet added that the applicant
has stated he will not enlarge the structure toward Route 236. Mr.
Rose stated that during a recent site visit, they looked at the sight
distance issue and that both the house and the proposed apartment will
have adequate sight distance to access onto Route 236. Mr. Ouimet
asked if there would be a parking area separate from the driveway. Mr.
Dalston stated he plans on placing a parking pad near the rear of the
proposed apartment, which will be separate from the driveway. Mr.
Ouimet stated he is concerned that if people park on the driveway, it
may hinder the sight distance for people accessing from the house
driveway. Mr. Dalston stated he plans on placing a parking pad but if
people do park on the driveway there would still be good sight
distance. Mr. Hansen closed the Public Hearing at 7:56pm.
Mr. Drake made a motion to approve the use variance of allowing two
residential units on one parcel. Mr. Ouimet seconded with a
contingency stating the parcel area conforms to the lot size
requirement of the Town’s zoning laws for a two-family residential
parcel and the pre-existing, non-conforming building to be converted
to an apartment is a unique situation within the limits of the Town.
Mr. Drake agreed to the contingency and amended the motion to include
the contingency.
Motion carried unanimously.
Halfmoon Gas Plus, 1592 Route 9, Area Variance
Mr. Hansen opened the Public Hearing at 7:59pm. Mr. Steve Weeks
(applicant), co-owner of the Halfmoon Gas Plus convenient store, was
present to request a side-yard setback variance for a proposed
carwash/Laundromat on a vacant commercial parcel adjacent to the
Halfmoon Gas Plus (Mobil) convenient store on the corner of Route 9
and Sitterly Rd in the Town of Halfmoon. The requested area variance
consists of relief from the required 15ft side-yard setback to a 5ft
side-yard setback for a commercial zoned property as described in the
Town’s Zoning laws. Mr. Weeks explained that they have been in front
of the Town’s Planning Board for site plan approval for a proposed
3-bay carwash and a self-served Laundromat to be located on a vacant
parcel next the Halfmoon Gas Plus store. Mr. Weeks continued that the
existing and proposed site would have access from existing curb cuts
on Route 9 and Sitterly Rd. There are no proposed improvements to
either curb cut. Mr. Weeks explained that he has been in front of the
Zoning Board, about 4-years ago, to ask for the same variance for the
existing convenient store and was granted the requested relief. Mr.
Weeks stated he has tried to look at every aspect of developing the
site for the proposed carwash/Laundromat. Originally, the concept
depicted a zero side-yard setback but there was a concern with the
Town’s Planning Board, especially if the parcels were to be under
different ownership, for room to maintain the building without having
to cross over a property line. Mr. Weeks stated he reduced the size of
the building and is now asking for a side-yard variance to 5ft. Mr.
Weeks explained the building is placed at its location to allow good
internal traffic flow pattern and allow room for a possible cross
easement connection with a vacant parcel to the north of the proposed
site. Mr. Weeks concluded the presentation by stating he feels the
requested variance, if granted, will have no negative aspect to the
site and will not alter the character of the surrounding development.
Mr. Hansen asked if both commercial sites (Halfmoon Gas Plus and
proposed carwash/Laundromat) would have the ability to utilize both
existing access points from Route 9 and Sitterly Road. Mr. Weeks
stated yes there are shared access easements in place and the internal
traffic will be able to circulate around the perimeter of both
commercial sites. Mr. Rose asked if a traffic study has been
performed. Mr. Weeks stated no that when the convenient store was in
front of the Planning Board several years ago, both commercial lots
were reviewed and the existing curb cut on Route 9 has been designed
to allow shared access to both parcels. Mr. Rose asked if the two
commercial parcels were one parcel, would there be need for a
variance.
Mr. Weeks explained that the Town’s Planning Board brought up the same
question but due to the two lots and their uses being financed
separately, the lending company will not finance the two commercial
uses if adjoined on the same parcel. Mr. Weeks explained that the two
parcels were purchased from the Hatlee’s separately and at different
times. The vacant parcel, the one with the proposed carwash/Laundromat
site, was purchased first and then the Halfmoon Gas Plus site was
purchased second which was the property of the Hatlee’s former house.
Mr. Rose asked why is there a need of two businesses on the site and
not one (a carwash or a Laundromat). Mr. Weeks stated it is a business
management decision. The two uses do not compliment each other and
they are used at different times but the utilities needed to operate
them are very similar. Mr. Weeks continued that the car wash’s busy
time is Dec.- Feb. with peak times being the best days of the winter
weather (sunny). The Laundromat is used throughout the year with
staggering times of usage and there is no one busy time. Mr. Weeks
explained that in a business sense, to offset the lull times for the
carwash, the Laundromat would create the needed revenue to cover the
cost of the utilities needed to run the operation. Mr. Ouimet asked if
the applicant looked into a two-bay carwash instead of the proposed
3-bay carwash and if a variance would be needed for the two-bay
approach. Mr. Weeks stated 75% of the revenue created from the carwash
is in the winter months. Mr. Weeks continued that he has reviewed
several other existing carwash sites and that most have a 3-bay
carwash and that it is needed to create the earnings to cover the
infrastructure for the carwash. Mr. Ouimet stated that if the Zoning
Board grants the 5ft setback it goes with the land and if the use were
to change that granted variance would cause problems in the future.
Mr. Weeks stated that the original proposal to the Planning Board
depicted a zero side yard line, which raised concerns amongst the
Planning Board. Mr. Weeks continued that he reduced the size of the
building but had a strong need to create proper internal traffic flow
so that vehicles could safely circulate around the two commercial
sites in addition to the desire of allowing room for the cross
easement to the vacant parcel to the north of the site. The need to
create a safe internal traffic flow coupled with the need of a 3-bay
carwash to make the project work created the need to ask for the 5ft
side-yard setback. Mr. Hansen asked Mr. Berkowitz if the Planning
Board was comfortable with the proposed project. Mr. Berkowitz stated
yes and that the Planning Board has reviewed the stacking issue for
the carwash and recommended stacking to the side and rear of the
proposed building rather in the front, which may cause problems on
Route 9. Mr. Berkowitz explained that the Town’s engineer report had
minimal comments.
Mr. Rose asked if the applicant meets the four criteria’s to request a
variance. Mr. Ouimet stated that it sounds to be self-created but
listening to the applicant’s explanation of the need for a safe
internal traffic flow, the stacking area and the cross easement issue
he is more comfortable with the request. Mr. Hansen stated that an
area variance does not need to meet the four criteria as a use
variance does because the difference between an area variance request
and a use variance request is the intensity of the possible impact.
Mr. Rose asked if the variance request could be contingent on the
proposed use only and if the use were to change the variance would be
voided. Mr. Hansen and Mr. Berkowitz stated any change to the site
would need site plan approval from the Planning Board, to say if the
building was removed and a new building with a new use was proposed.
If the new site plan needed a variance it would need to be addressed
by the Zoning Board. Mr. Drake asked if the applicant is proposing to
funnel the traffic to Sitterly Road access instead of people trying to
make a left hand turn onto Route 9 from the Route 9 access. Mr. Weeks
explained that taking a left hand turn onto Route 9 from the Route 9
access is not difficult; especially since the State has placed a
turning lane down the median of Route 9; except for the morning rush
hour commute. Mr. Drake stated that weekend traffic can be very busy
and the possibility of pulling in additional traffic to the area to
use the proposed carwash/Laundromat, it may be better to reconfigure
the layout to the proposed building so that customers would use the
Sitterly Rd access and the traffic light at the Route 9 intersection.
Mr. Weeks explained the stacking for the carwash is desired to be on
the side and rear of the proposed building and not in front, which may
cause problems with the Route 9 access, and the need to allow the
customers to circulate around the perimeter of the site, the building
is at its best location. Mr. Rose stated the access to Sitterly, with
regards to making a left hand turn out of the Halfmoon Gas Plus site,
is also difficult due to limited sight distance. Mr. Weeks explained
that he has never witnessed an accident from the two access areas
serving the Halfmoon Gas Plus site. Mr. Weeks states that most
accidents occur when people are trying make a left hand turn onto
Sitterly Rd. from Route 9. There is a green arrow when southbound
traffic on Route 9 is stopped. The accidents occur when people making
a left turn on full green and crossing the southbound traffic. Unlike
the green arrow at Wal-Mart that changes to full green, the traffic
light at Sitterly Road goes from full green to green arrow, which
should be safer if southbound traffic on Route 9 does not try to run
the red light. Mr. Rose explained taking a left hand turn out of the
gas station is difficult and there is a proposal for an indoor soccer
complex, which may add additional traffic.
Mr. Berkowitz stated the Planning Board approved the Quik Ag addition
to site plan and with the approval, the applicant is to thin out the
brush along Sitterly Road to improve the sight distance. Mr. Ouimet
stated that if the Planning Board and CHA have decided the traffic
safety issue is adequate then he feels it is being addressed. Mr.
Ouimet stated the applicant has worked on the needs for internal
traffic flow and the safety issues with traffic and the circulation
between the two sites and that the 5ft side yard request may not be
all that problematic. Mr. Ouimet asked if there is enough area for
snow removal from the carwash area. Mr. Weeks there are radiant
heating pads as you enter and exit the carwash to control ice build
up. Mr. Weeks continued that there is adequate area to manage snow
removal. Mr. Ouimet asked what type of carwash is proposed. Mr. Weeks
stated it would be a touch free carwash. Mr. Hansen asked what the
distance was between the existing Halfmoon Gas Plus store and the
proposed location to the proposed carwash/Laundromat. Mr. Weeks stated
the existing convenient store gained an area variance of 5ft and the
proposed location of the carwash/Laundromat would have a 10ft
separation if the closest corners of each building were drawn on
parallel lines. The greatest distance is about 24ft. Mr. Drake asked
if the cross easement with the vacant lands to the north of the site
was required or asked by the Planning Board. Mr. Weeks stated he
placed a note on the map stating if requested by the Planning Board
and an agreement between the two property owners that the cross
easement would be put into effect. The idea is good planning to allow
an internal connection between two commercial sites and assists on
keeping traffic off of Route 9 (in this case). Mr. Weeks stated there
is no commitment for the cross easement from the landowner to the
north at this time. Mr. Berkowitz added the cross easement is also
beneficial for a secondary emergency access. Mr. Hansen closed the
Public Hearing at 8: 39 pm.
Mr. Rose made a motion to approve the 5ft side yard setback as
requested. Mr. Ouimet seconded. Motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Tedrow made a motion to adjourn the March 1, 2004 Town of Halfmoon
Zoning Board of Appeals meeting at 8:41pm. Mr. Ouimet seconded. Motion
carried unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted,
Jeffrey R. Williams
ZBA Coordinator
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