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Planning Board Minutes - May 23, 2005
Those present at the May 23, 2005 Planning Board meeting
were:
Planning Board Members: Steve Watts – Chairman
Don Roberts – Vice Chairman
Marcel Nadeau
Tom Ruchlicki
John Higgins
Alternate
Planning Board Members: Dan McDermid
Bob Beck
Planner: Jeff Williams
Town Attorney: Bob Chauvin
Deputy Town Attorney: Lyn Murphy
Town Board Liaisons: Mindy Wormuth
Walt Polak
CHA Representative: Mike Bianchino
EDP Representative: Mike McNamara
Mr. Watts opened the May 23, 2005 Planning Board Meeting at
7:03 pm. Mr. Watts asked the Planning Board if they have
reviewed the May 9, 2005 Planning Board Minutes. Mr. Roberts
made a motion to approve the May 9, 2005 Planning Board
Minutes. Mr. Higgins seconded. Motion carried.
Note: Dan McDermid and Bob Beck will sit in for Cindy
Patenaude and Rich Berkowitz in their
absence.
Public Informational Meeting:
04.214 PIM Fellows Road Pdd, Fellows Road – Major
Subdivision/PDD
Mr. Watts opened the Public Informational Meeting at 7:04
pm. Mr. Watts asked if anyone would like to have the Public
Notice read. No one responded. Mr. Roberts recused himself
from this item. Mr. Scott Lansing, of Lansing Engineering,
stated he was before the Board tonight to obtain comments
from Public and work with the Planning Board for a referral
to the Town Board as part of the PDD process. Mr. Lansing
stated the site is located on the south side of Route 146
and bisected by Fellows Road. Mr. Lansing stated the overall
parcel is approximately 84.2-acres. Mr. Lansing stated that
60-acres are located to the west side of Fellows Road and
24-acres are located to the east side of Follows Road. Mr.
Lansing stated the parcel is currently vacant and formerly
used for agricultural purposes. Mr. Lansing stated there is
a NYDEC dedicated wetlands and there are scattered Federal
wetlands throughout the proposed project. Mr. Lansing stated
the topography generally slopes towards the south and then
toward the east. Mr. Lansing stated that vegetation closely
follows the NYDEC wetlands and there are some forested areas
in the DEC regulated area and in the agricultural area. Mr.
Lansing stated the area to the east is a former agricultural
area with some light brush scattered throughout. Mr. Lansing
stated the parcel is currently zoned
Agricultural/Residential. Mr. Lansing stated the proposed
use for the parcel is a Planned Development District (PDD).
Mr. Lansing stated the PDD consist of 49 townhouse buildings
that are proposed to be located on the western 60-acres. Mr.
Lansing stated that each townhouse would be 3-unit buildings
for a total of 147 townhouse units. Mr. Lansing stated the
applicant is proposing 25 luxury apartments buildings. Mr.
Lansing stated there would be 8-units per building for a
total of 200 apartment units proposed for the 24-acres on
the eastern side of Fellows Road. Mr. Lansing stated 4
duplex lots are proposed along the frontage of the relocated
roadway alignment that would be located to the northeast
portion of the project. Mr. Lansing stated the total equates
to 355 units for the project. Mr. Lansing stated a gross
density is calculated to be 4.21 units per acre and a net
density of approximately 6.63 units per acre. Mr. Lansing
stated these calculations are well below the PDD ordinance,
which states a maximum density of 10-units per acre. Mr.
Lansing stated that water would be connected to the
waterline that currently exists along Fellows Road. Mr.
Lansing stated that the water would be extended into the
various roadways to service the residences within the
proposed project. Mr. Lansing stated that storm water would
be managed on site at low-lying areas to mitigate storm
water runoff. Mr. Lansing stated that gravity sanitary sewer
is proposed for the project that would go to a central pump
station to the east of the project. Mr. Lansing stated the
pump station would pump the sewage into the force main that
is located on Route 236 and continues to Route 146. Mr.
Lansing stated they are proposing improvements to traffic in
the Fellows Road/Route 146 area. Mr. Lansing stated the
Public benefits for the project is a land donation to the
Town. Mr. Lansing stated the first part of the land donation
is approximately 60-acres of land on Vosburgh Road as part
of the Vosburgh Road PDD. Mr. Lansing stated the land is
located adjacent to passive recreation land that has been
identified in the GEIS. Mr. Lansing stated the applicant is
proposing the dedication of approximately 6.94-acres that is
located off of Fellows Road which is adjacent to lands
currently owned by the Town. Mr. Lansing stated the
applicant is proposing traffic improvements to the
intersection of Fellows Road and Route 146. Mr. Lansing
stated that currently there is an acute intersection where
Fellows Road meets Route 146. Mr. Lansing stated that this
is a very dangerous intersection. Mr. Lansing stated the
applicant is proposing to terminate the westerly portion of
Fellows Road and the westerly connection to Route 146. Mr.
Lansing stated that the realignment of Fellows Road would be
extended to the east to access Route 146. Mr. Lansing stated
they have worked with Creighton Manning on the traffic
situation and a Creighton Manning representative is present
to answer any traffic related questions. Mr. Lansing stated
they have identified a location approximately 200 FT. to the
east to help maximize sight distance. Mr. Lansing stated the
applicant has acquired a parcel that has an existing barn
and the applicant plans to demolish the barn to increase the
horizontal sight distance. Mr. Lansing stated the applicant
is proposing a main sewer line and pump station down towards
Route 236. Mr. Lansing stated the pump station and gravity
sewer line would be designed to service a broader area to
expand sewer service to the Route 146 corridor. Mr. Lansing
stated another Public benefit would be a dedicated land area
for a cross-town connector for future roadways. Mr. Lansing
stated they feel the proposed project attributes justify the
PDD. Mr. Watts asked if anyone from the Public wished to
speak. Mr. Bill Flavin, of 82C Fellows Road, stated he lives
on the triangle at the intersection of Fellows Road and
Route 146. Mr. Flavin stated the intersection was deadly and
it has to go. Mr. Flavin stated that it has taken 3 deaths
to get the speed limit lowered to 45 mph on Route 146. Mr.
Flavin stated that across the intersection to Werner Road
was also a dangerous intersection. Mr. Flavin stated there
are approximately 40 residences on Fellows Road and around
5:00 pm you can’t get out of your driveway due to the
traffic at the intersection. Mr. Flavin stated he would like
to see that road closed. Mr. Jerry Baker, of 88 Fellows
Road, stated the proposed changes to the intersection of
Fellows Road and Route 146 would not solve the problem due
to the hump in the Road. Mr. Flavin stated this is the
location where the deaths have occurred. Mr. Flavin stated
that with the increase of traffic from the proposed project
and the location of the access of project will only create
more deaths. Mr. Flavin stated the current sharp turn is
proposed to be moved down and you still would not be able to
see over the hill in the road. Mr. Harvey Hayner, of Route
236, asked where the pump station would be located on Route
236. Mr. Lansing stated the pump station is proposed to be
located on Town owned land on Route 236 at the low point.
Ms. Barbara Lodge, of 42 Fellows Road, stated that she and
her husband moved to Fellows Road in December. Ms. Lodge
stated that had they known that this project was going to
take place they would not have moved to that location. Ms.
Lodge stated that it is a shame that such a beautiful area
will be given away to development that would increase
traffic on a road that is already full of traffic. Ms. Lodge
asked the Planning Board to reconsider their intent on
approving this project, as it will take away a beautiful
area. Mr. Watts closed the Public Informational Meeting at
7:16 pm. Mr. Lansing stated the access point on Route 146
has been determined to be the optimal location. Mr. Lansing
stated that Creighton Manning has worked with CHA and have
identified the proposed access point as the optimal
location. Mr. Lansing stated the project, traffic study and
the cut on Route 146 all has to be approved by NYDOT as well
as the Town Engineer for the traffic analysis, intersection
sight distance and configuration. Ms. Lana Moran, of
Creighton Manning Engineering, stated that by opening the
intersection further east by approximately 200 FT. would
increase the sight distance at that intersection to almost
700 FT. that is well above the standard for a 55 mph zone.
Ms. Moran stated that the current speed limit on Route 146
is 45 mph so the sight distance would be increased and would
make that area safer. Mr. Bill Flavin, of 82C Fellows Road,
asked if that would be the only access onto Route 146. Mr.
Lansing stated that the westerly access would be terminated
and the only access would be on the easterly side. Mr.
Flavin asked if there would be a traffic light at that
intersection. Mr. Lansing stated that there was no traffic
light proposed for that intersection. Ms. Moran stated they
recommend that the intersection be monitored to see if a
traffic light is warranted. Ms. Moran stated if a traffic
signal is warranted at that location then one would be put
in. Mr. Bianchino stated they were concerned with the area
with the high point in the road and the Town has been
working to try to eliminate to do something with the 2
existing curb cuts on Fellows Road and Route 146. Mr.
Bianchino stated the original proposal was to modify the
existing curb cut location. Mr. Bianchino stated the Board
had concerns with the sight distance at that location and
the applicant did further study and determined that moving
the curb cut further to the east would provide the best
location on that stretch of road. Mr. Bianchino stated that
there is no question there is a rise in the hill and they
will work with NYDOT to see if anything could be done to
improve the sight distance. Mr. Bianchino stated the
applicant’s current proposal at the Fellows Road and Route
146 intersection is the best location short of cutting the
whole rock cut down and lowering the road. Mr. Nadeau asked
why doesn’t the Board request that a traffic light be
installed at the Fellows Road/Route 146 intersection as
Creighton Manning’s review stated that it is a borderline
situation knowing the problems that have occurred at that
intersection already. Mr. Nadeau stated that Mr. Bianchino
stated if the access was moved further down doesn’t mean
that it is the best location but the lesser of two evils.
Mr. Nadeau stated the Board should consider looking into a
traffic signal at the intersection seeing as it is a
borderline situation. Ms. Moran stated there are several
signal warrants that have to met in order to install a
traffic signal and this has not quite been met at that
intersection. Ms. Moran stated that if other projects in the
area, including the Fellows Road development, were to
progress and go in then at that point a traffic signal would
probably be warranted. Ms. Moran stated at this point
traffic volumes do not warrant a traffic signal. Ms. Moran
stated that the applicant is very willing to work with the
NYDOT and the Board to make sure the Town gets what they are
looking for as long as it is warranted. Mr. Watts asked if a
traffic signal was warranted, who is responsible for the
payment of the traffic signal. Mr. Lansing stated he did not
have that information. Mr. Tanski stated it is his
understanding in reviewing the Creighton Manning report and
talking to his engineer, that other projects in the area
would have to take place for a traffic signal at the Fellows
Road/Route 146 intersection. Mr. Tanski stated that with
talking with Mr. Bianchino, he has stated to CHA that he is
willing to put a certain amount of money per unit into a
escrow account in case the traffic signal is warranted at a
later date or whatever the Town wants to use the monies for.
Mr. Tanski stated that if there is no more development in
that area, the traffic light will not be warranted and even
if they wanted to put it in, NYDOT would not allow it. Mr.
Watts asked how close the intersection is to be warranted
for a traffic signal. Ms. Moran stated it is close. Ms.
Moran stated that in order to meet the warrant you would
need to see traffic continue to increase at about a 2% rate
per year and you would need to see other developments come
in around Route 146, Vosburgh Road and Werner Road area. Ms.
Moran stated until that happens the thresholds really aren’t
met. Mr. Berkowitz asked if the Sheldon Hills project was
considered in their numbers. Ms. Moran stated yes. Mr.
Chauvin stated that this is a substantial improvement since
traffic improvement studies that were performed in the late
80’s and 90’s. Mr. Chauvin stated he liked the applicant’s
offer for an escrow. Mr. Chauvin stated that quite often
warrants are met not because of development in the area but
because of development outside of the area therefore, a SEQR
review would require he warrant and the escrow is a very
good idea so if it does happen in the future they won’t have
to wait for another developer to come in. Mr. Chauvin asked
Mr. Lansing to structure an agreement similar to ones that
they have used in the past to assure that the traffic
improvement monies will be there when the traffic
improvements are needed. Mr. Ruchlicki stated that he thinks
they will not have any trouble meeting the 2% increase in
traffic per year. Mr. Ruchlicki stated he had commented on
the hump on Route 146 back when the project was first
proposed and mentioned that hump should be removed from
Route 146. Mr. Ruchlicki stated regardless if a traffic
signal is installed there still will be a problem if the top
of the hump is not removed because it is a sight issue. Mr.
Ruchlicki stated that he travels that road all the time and
asked if the study for sight distance was physically
performed because the sight distance from that point to the
entrance at SAAB of Halfmoon is terrible because of the hump
in the road. Mr. Ruchlicki stated if the applicant is
willing to put money into an escrow account for a future
traffic signal then the applicant could take the hump out to
mitigate sight distance. Ms. Mason stated an on site sight
distance analysis was performed in person. Ms. Mason stated
at the analysis the site distance measurement was over 700
FT., which is well above the actual standard. Mrs. Wormuth
asked if the money put into escrow would be for a traffic
signal or money per unit for future traffic improvements.
Mr. Watts stated it was his understanding the money in
escrow would be for a traffic light when warranted. Mr.
Tanski stated it would be money per unit in escrow for the
Town to do what it wants because if the traffic light is not
warranted the Town could take the escrow money and use it
someplace else. Mr. Watts stated there are always issues
that Planning Board and Town Board wrestles with relative to
any expansion of property in the Town. Mr. Watts stated that
when areas are zoned Agricultural/Residential, Residential,
or Commercial, those properties are going to be utilized for
houses or Commercial development for a variety of purposes
in accordance with the Town’s zoning ordinances. Mr. Watts
stated that where there are traffic issues the Town does an
excellent in terms meeting the needs and understanding the
needs of the Town’s residents. Mr. Watts stated the
developers in the Town of Halfmoon have a history of making
payments of escrows that are done in other Towns. Mr. Watts
stated this is why the Town does not have Town taxes or
highway taxes in the Town of Halfmoon. Mr. Watts stated
there is a large continuous process of looking at reviewing
and trying to meet the needs for places for people to live,
businesses for people to go and to keep the Town on a good
path to reasonable growth. Mr. Watts stated that the issues
of safety are always paramount when new projects come to the
Town. Mr. Nadeau asked what amount of traffic would flow to
Guideboard Road, which is already a problem the Town has at
the present time. Ms. Mason stated that based on the
existing travel patterns in the area they estimate about
40-45% of the traffic will head to Guideboard Road, 10% will
head to the intersection of Routes 236 and 146 toward
Mechanicville and 35-40% would head toward exit 9 and
Clifton Park. Mr. Watts stated that relative to the
Guideboard Road issues they have been developing a fund
within the Town for possible traffic improvements. Mr. Watts
stated that some of these roads are State and County roads
and at this point the State has not come forward nor has the
County in terms of making improvements to those roads. Mr.
Watts stated the with the Town’s limited resources they are
looking to make proper improvements on roads or to
contribute toward those proper improvements. Mr. Watts
stated that funds have been set aside for making traffic
improvements in other areas within the Town where the State
and County are not making the improvements. Mr. Polak stated
that in all the studies over the years the Town is aware of
what their problems are also aware of the problems on State
an County roads. Mr. Polak stated that getting the State and
County to recognize and correct these problems are
fruitless. Mr. Higgins asked Mr. Lansing if he saw a copy of
a letter from CHA concerning some of the redesign that they
requested regarding access to the proposed cross-town
connection. Mr. Lansing stated he did see the letter. Mr.
Lansing stated he believes that CHA was referring to some
sort of a connection from the internal roadway to the
cross-town connector. Mr. Lansing stated he would review the
letter and work with the applicant to address CHA’s
concerns. Mr. Watts stated at this point a lot of issues
have been raised relative to traffic, escrow and various
items and he does not feel comfortable at this time nor does
the Board to take any action on this project. Mr. Watts
stated this project will be revisited at the next Planning
Board Meeting and have discussions with the applicant. Mr.
Watts thanked the Public for their concerns and issues. Mr.
Watts stated some improvements would be made to Fellows Road
and hopefully more improvements would come in the future.
This item was tabled for further review in order to make a
recommendation to the Town Board.
Old Business:
04.235 OB Adam’s Pointe, Johnson Road – Major
Subdivision/PDD
Mr. Ivan Zdrahal, of Ivan Zdrahal and Associates, proposed a
revised PDD application for a residential subdivision
located on Johnson Road and McBride Road. Mr. Zdrahal stated
that this project has been before the Board in the past. Mr.
Zdrahal stated the Board appointed Mr. Higgins and Mr.
Ruchlicki as the committee for the project. Mr. Zdrahal
stated he met with the committee and discussed different
options for the project. Mr. Zdrahal stated that one of the
Board’s concerns was the size of the lots. Mr. Zdrahal
stated he has revised the plan to the address the concerns
that were raised. Mr. Zdrahal stated the new proposal is for
the same type of residential units that are geared toward
empty nesters. Mr. Zdrahal stated they are still proposing
the Home Owners Association. Mr. Zdrahal stated the main
change from the previous proposal is that the lot sizes were
increased to a minimum of 15,000 SF. Mr. Zdrahal stated that
the access road configuration generally would stay the same.
Mr. Zdrahal stated they have changed the number of lots from
21 to 20. Mr. Zdrahal stated that the minimum lot area would
be 15,000 SF with the largest lot area would be
approximately 26,000 SF with the average lot area would be
approximately 17,000 SF. Mr. Zdrahal stated the minimum lot
width would be 75 FT. Mr. Zdrahal stated other lot widths
would be 80 to 120 FT. Mr. Zdrahal stated a buffer is still
proposed according to the findings of the northern GEIS. Mr.
Zdrahal stated a buffer to be placed along Johnson Road and
McBride Road. Mr. Zdrahal stated the PDD developable green
space would include 2.7-acres of land. Mr. Zdrahal stated
the increase in the developable green space justifies the
increased density from the conventional 18-ots proposal that
was previously presented to the 20-lot proposed for the PDD.
Mr. Higgins stated that he and Mr. Ruchlicki met with Mr.
Williams and Mr. Zdrahal to discuss the comments from the
Board from the previous meeting. Mr. Higgins stated the GEIS
intent was discussed regarding the individual development to
benefit by increased quality green space in exchange for the
benefit of smaller lots for the developer. Mr. Higgins
stated the extent of the quality green space in exchange for
the lots were able to be negotiated to the point where the
actual quality green space remained but the lots were able
to be larger than what was originally proposed by the
developer. Mr. Higgins stated they reconfigured the road and
added in the 60 FT. future right of way in case it was
needed. Mr. Higgins stated the benefit of the increased
quality green space and the larger lots work very well for
this application. Mr. Ruchlicki asked if Lot #1 and Lot #2
had green space in front along the road where the wetland
section is located. Mr. Zdrahal stated that area was
proposed as a land preservation area. Mr. Ruchlicki ask if
the 2 flag lots would have less disturbance to the wetlands
if the 2 driveways were placed side by side instead of
spacing them. Mr. Zdrahal stated that could possibly be
done. Mr. Zdrahal stated with the shared driveway there
might be less impact to the wetlands. Mrs. Murphy asked if a
trail was proposed for one of the Public Benefits. Mr.
Zdrahal stated yes the trail is still included as one of the
Public Benefits. Mr. Higgins asked how the maintenance
contract would be set-up for the Home Owners Association.
Mr. Zdrahal stated there is a draft maintenance document for
the HOA that is ready for review. Mr. Watts asked about the
land preservation area. Mr. Zdrahal stated the land
preservation area is located between the edge of the right
of way and the wetlands. Mr. Watts asked who would own the
land preservation area. Mr. Zdrahal stated that the land
preservation area would be part of the lots. Mr. Watts
stated that they would have to have much more definition of
the Public Benefits for the Town Board before this project
moves further.
This item was tabled and referred to CHA for review. The
Planning Board asked for a list from the developer of the
proposed Public Benefits in writing for review and a copy of
the proposed HOA agreement to the Town Attorney for review.
05.111 OB A & M Sports Complex, McBride Road – Special Use
Permit/GEIS
Mr. Scott Lansing, of Lansing Engineering, proposed a
Special Use Permit for A & M Sports Complex. Mr. Lansing
stated that one of the Boards concerns at the last Board
meeting was the sight distance at the proposed access point
on McBride Road. Mr. Lansing stated another concern was
regarding the location of one of the softball fields. Mr.
Lansing stated that they have met with the Board’s committee
and have walked the proposed site. Mr. Lansing stated they
investigated the entranceway on McBride Road and a survey
was performed by surveyors for sight distance. Mr. Lansing
stated that they discussed with the committee the proposed
field locations. Mr. Lansing stated they have made
modifications since the last Planning Board and committee
meeting. Mr. Lansing stated the entrance was relocated
approximately 10 FT. to meet the sight distance requirements
for that roadway. Mr. Lansing stated that one of the ball
fields was relocated to centrally locate the fields all in
one area. Mr. Lansing stated the pavilion has been relocated
near the parking area and they have added portable restroom
facilities that would be located close to the pavilion. Mr.
Lansing stated that one of the parking areas were moved
closer to the ball fields under the recommendation of the
Board’s committee. Mr. Lansing stated that he feels they
have addressed all the comments that the Board had and would
like to request the Board’s consideration for final approval
of the Special Use Permit. Mr. Higgins stated that he and
Mr. Ruchlicki did meet with the Mr. Lansing and the
applicants and, as Mr. Lansing mentioned, there has been
some relocation within the proposed project. Mr. Higgins
asked Mr. Lansing if he saw CHA’s letter about the
relocation of the entrance to a common entrance for the
softball fields. Mr. Lansing stated that CHA’s review stated
that they feel that the sight distance was met. Mr. Lansing
stated one of CHA’s comments was that if the Board still had
concern with that entrance that there is a possibility that
the entrances could be combined. Mr. Lansing stated it was
his understanding that the applicant’s would like to have an
independent entrance from the soccer fields. Mr. Bianchino
stated they looked at the sight distance and the requirement
was met for the current posted speed limit. Mr. Bianchino
stated if the Board still had concerns with sight distance,
he recommended that the current posted speed limit be
reduced as another possibility. Mr. Higgins stated that the
entrance next to Hillcrest Firehouse is not going to be used
for this project. Mr. Lansing stated the entrance next to
Hillcrest Firehouse was not part of the Special Use Permit
application. Mr. Roberts asked what was proposed for
restroom facilities. Mr. Lansing stated there would be
portable restroom facilities that will be brought in during
the seasons. Mr. Roberts asked how many. Mr. Lansing stated
the plan shows 3 and the soccer fields 1 or 2. Mr. Steve
McBride stated there would be a minimum of 2 portable
restrooms at all times during the active season. Mr.
Ruchllicki stated that when he visited the sight he noticed
that there is a hump in the field before it flattens out and
once he stood off the end of one of the ball fields he saw a
different perspective of the layout of the project and he
feels a lot better about the project. Mr. Ruchlicki stated
the layout is very deceiving from the road. Mr. Ruchlicki
stated the relocation of the one ball field is definitely a
plus because of the parking issues. Mr. Ruchlicki stated
that overall the committee meeting went well. Mr. Watts
stated that this application was a very worthwhile project
and a good service for the community.
Mr. Higgins made a motion to declare a NEG DEC to SEQR. Mr.
Nadeau seconded. Motion carried. Mr. Higgins made a motion
to approve the Special Use Permit for A & M Sports Complex.
Mr. Nadeau seconded. Motion carried
05.138 OB Arlington Heights, Farm to Market Road – Major
Subdivision/PDD
Mr. Chauvin recused himself from this item. Mr. Gavin
Vuillaume, of Environmental Design Partnership, stated the
original PDD was approved in 1999. Mr. Vuilluame stated the
original PDD consisted of 50-lots on 25-acres on a parcel of
land located on the west side of Farm to Market Road. Mr.
Vuillaume stated there is one entrance that is directly
across from Moreland Drive. Mr. Vuillaume stated there has
been difficulty with Army Corp as far as permitting to get
the entrance road built the way it was originally proposed
in 1999. Mr. Vuilluame stated that Mr. Belmonte has
purchased additional lands to gain access to the project
without disturbing wetlands. Mr. Vuilluame stated they are
proposing an alternative design that does show the purchase
of some additional lands. Mr. Vuilluame stated there might
be approximately 1/10 of an acre of disturbance. Mr.
Vuilluame stated they are avoiding a 3 to 4-acre green space
area with wetlands incorporated. Mr. Vuilluame stated some
of the existing vegetation would be preserved. Mr. Vuilluame
stated the original proposal was for 50-lots and they are
now proposing 48-lots with an additional 1-acre so the
density is consistent with other developments. Mr. Vuillaume
stated the proposal calls for an on-site storm water
management area and the low point of the property along with
a pump station as was originally proposed. Mr. Vuilluame
stated they anticipate on installing sidewalks,
streetlights, street trees and also a Home Owners
Association as part of the project. Mr. Vuilluame stated the
all the streets would be publicly owned and maintained. Mr.
Vuilluame stated the Public Benefits they will be making an
offer for a gift of a $1,000 per lot or a total of $48,000.
Mr. Vuilluame stated they would be donating an unrestricted
gift of funds of $48,000 to the Town not for any specific
use but to be used in the GEIS area. Mr. Vuilluame stated
the sidewalks and the preservation would also be a Public
Benefits for the proposed project. Mr. Higgins asked what
the width of the roads would be. Mr. Vuilluame stated there
would be a smaller right of way and the road widths could be
designed to what the Town feels would be adequate for this
size project. Mr. Vuilluame stated that in similar projects
they have gone to a smaller road section. Mr. Vuilluame
stated if CHA feels it is appropriate for this particular
project they would suggest a 28 FT. road width with a 2 FT.
wing wedge as apposed to the 30 FT. width that the Town
typically likes. Mr. Higgins asked if the applicant felt
that the streetlights are a Public Benefit. Mr. Belmonte
stated that the streetlights have turned out to be a Public
Benefit as the homeowners in the community love them
especially while they are walking in the evening. Mr.
Belmonte stated that the streetlights are also a safety
benefit. Mr. Belmonte stated that in past they have had
difficulty with NYSEG in getting the streetlights turned on.
Mr. Belmonte asked the Town for assistance with the
streetlights when the time comes. Mr. Watts recommended a
Public Informational Meeting to be set prior to referring
the proposal to CHA.
Mr. Roberts made a motion to set a Public Informational
Meeting for the June 13, 2005 Planning Board Meeting. Mr.
Higgins seconded. Motion carried.
05.146 OB D & R Village, 430 Route 146 – Sign
Mr. Watts stated he is not setting a precedent but at the
last moment the applicant became ill and he is allowing Mr.
Roberts to present the sign application to the Board. Mr.
Roberts stated that at the April 11, 2005 Planning Board
Meeting the applicant came before the Board with a sign
proposal that was much higher than the Board allowed in that
area. Mr. Roberts stated the applicant has revised the sign
application to a 5.5 FT. by 7 FT. double-sided sign with 2
FT. by 5.5 FT. interchangeable sign on top and a 5 FT. by
5.5 FT. “D&R Village” sign on the bottom. Mr. Roberts stated
the total area of the proposed sign would be 77 SF. Mr.
Roberts stated the sign will be lit with internal lights and
will have a total height of 7.5 FT. Mr. Roberts stated he
has reviewed the sign application and he sees no problem
with the proposal.
Mr. Roberts made a motion to approve the Sign application
for D & R Village. Mr. Nadeau seconded. Motion carried.
05.15O OB Pal’s After School & Summer Camp, 282 Grooms Road
– Change
of Tenant/Use
Mr. Tom Andress, of ABD Engineering, stated that at the
Public Information Meeting held on May 9, 2005 there were a
number of issues in which they have made some modifications.
Mr. Andress stated that one of the concerns was with the bus
drop-off. Mr. Andress stated that a representative from
Shenendehowa Schools did agree that the buses could be
maneuvered through the site. Mr. Andress stated that the
parking lot would be cleared during the period of bus
drop-off and pick-up. Mr. Andress stated that there would be
signage put up for the principle parking in the rear and a
handicap space has been relocated. Mr. Andress stated that
the building is fully handicap accessible. Mr. Andress
stated there is 900 FT. of sight distance to the east and
about 600 FT. to the west. Mr. Andress stated they have
provided photographs of the rear and an aerial photo to show
a relationship between houses to the south of the project.
Mr. Andress stated the closest neighbor spoke in favor of
the project who is located over 200 FT. away. Mr. Andress
stated there is an extensive wooded area between the
facility and the houses. Mr. Andress stated that the nearby
homeowners, due to the topography, could see the proposed
facility. Mr. Andress stated that they are proposing some
additional trees planted to the rear of the parking lot and
planting trees to the rear of the proposed play area. Mr.
Higgins asked if the buses were able to make the swing
around or did they have to back up to be able to make the
swing when Shenendehowa did their test. Ms. Russell stated
the buses are able to make the swing without backing up. Mr.
Higgins suggested widening the driveway to allow for a
right-hand only turn so that this would allow the traffic to
keep moving rather than stacking up. Ms. Russell agreed with
the suggestion. Mr. Andress stated this was now on the plan.
Mr. Ruchlicki asked if it was possible to have the buses
travel east to the facility from school which will be a
right-in only and when exiting the facility to have a
right-out only toward Route 9. Mr. Ruchlicki stated this
would eliminate the buses from crossing lanes and holding up
traffic. Mr. Watts asked Mr. Williams to write a letter from
the Planning Board to the Shenendehowa Transportation
Director, Mr. Christopher, indicating that it is recommended
by the Planning Board that buses entering the facility
travel eastbound on Grooms Road and exiting eastbound toward
Route 9 for a right-in and right-out only for safety
reasons. Mr. Watts asked Ms. Russell to clarify the need for
day care. Ms. Russell stated that there is a huge need for
day care in the community. Ms. Russell stated that the
elementary students are dismissed at 2:00 pm, which would
require some type of day care. Ms. Russell stated that she
has 200 children enrolled ready to go is into the proposed
facility if approved by the Board. Mr. Watts stated that
Shenendehowa Schools have a unique schedule that revolves
around transportation issues that generates the need for day
care in this area. Mr. Bianchino stated there was an issued
raised by the Board relevant to parking in the upper lot.
Mr. Bianchino stated the Board stated that there could be no
parking in the upper lot when the buses are on-site. Mr.
Andress stated that was correct. Mr. Bianchino asked how the
parking in the upper lot would be restricted. Ms. Russell
stated that signage would be put out indicating no parking
at the time the buses are there. Ms. Russell stated the
signs would read no parking between the hours of 2:00 pm and
3:00 pm. Mr. Chauvin stated that the Director of
Shenendehowa Transportation stated that if parking is not
restricted, the bus drivers would be forced to drop-off the
children on the road. Mr. Chauvin stated that the minutes
and a letter from the applicant should be in the record
reflecting that if this is not the case, then their use
would be subject to termination. Mr. Chauvin stated this is
a significant issue that the Shenendehowa Transportation
Department has expressed and if the parking is not done in
this way, they do not want to participate. Mr. Chauvin
stated the parking has to restricted and policed so that the
Town’s Code Enforcement Officer doesn’t have to be at the
site to do this for the applicant. Mr. Roberts stated to the
applicant that the proposed day care would be located in the
Professional Office/Residential zone so their signage could
not exceed 10 SF.
Mr. Roberts made a motion to approve the Change of
Tenant/Use application for Pal’s After School & Summer Camp
contingent upon the drop-off area is to be immediately
adjacent to the building and not on Grooms Road. Mr. Nadeau
responded “Nay”. Mr. Higgins seconded. Motion carried by a 6
to 1 vote.
New Business:
05.154 NB T-Mobile USA, Crescent Road – Cell Tower Site Plan
Mr. Bianchino recused himself from this item and Mr.
McNamara replaced him. Mr. Jeff Davis, an Attorney with
Hiscock & Barclay, Syracuse, NY, proposes a site plan review
for T-Mobile USA. Mr. Davis stated T-Mobile is doing
improvements statewide for their network. Mr. Davis stated
T-Mobile’s facilities are currently located at the Twin
Bridges and Exit 9. Mr. Davis stated the proposed cell tower
would be an in-fill between the 2 current locations. Mr.
Davis stated there is a large capacity and coverage problems
along Crescent Road, Interstate 87 and Exit 9. Mr. Davis
stated the proposed cell tower site plan would be a
co-location to the other 2 sites. Mr. Davis stated the
proposed site is adjacent to I-87 where there is a
lightweight ham radio tower. Mr. Davis stated the current
tower is 98.7 FT. high with a 10 FT. antenna for a total
approximate height of 109 FT. Mr. Davis stated that T-Mobile
proposes to removed the existing tower and replace the tower
with a 140 FT. monopole type cell tower structure that can
support antennas for 3 other providers. Mr. Davis stated
that T-Mobile proposes to build the tower extendable to 160
FT. depending on Planning Board approval. Mr. Davis stated
the proposed site is on the opposite side of I-87 and
adjacent to the Town line with Clifton Park. Mr. Davis
stated there is a small wedge of land on the other side of
I-87 that is the Town of Halfmoon that is 28.7 FT. from the
Town line of Clifton Park. Mr. Davis stated the proposed
parcel for the tower covers both Towns. Mr. Davis stated
that all the setback requires are met except in the
direction of the I-87 corridor. Mr. Davis stated the
proposed cell tower site plan is consistent with cell towers
that are along the NYS Thruway, I-87 and the DOT’s camera
towers. Mr. Davis showed a computer generated Propagation
Map that shows the need for more coverage. Mr. Davis stated
that they have other towers in the area and that a new tower
is needed in the I-87 corridor to resolve coverage
discrepancies. Mr. Davis stated that he would submit a check
for escrow to the Town Engineer. Mr. Roberts asked who owned
the property for the proposed cell tower site. Mr. Davis
stated Matthew Keenan, Jr owns the property. Mr. Higgins
stated that they have looked at the height of other cell
towers and 140 FT. may be not be something the Town would
want. Mr. Davis stated that at the Public Hearing, Mr.
Crawfield, Radio Frequency Engineer for T-Mobile, would be
present to answer any specific RF questions. Mr. Davis
stated there were alternative sites and a couple of those
locations were rejected for RF reasons and they will have
propagation studies for the Board to review in case there
are any specific questions in relationship to those studies.
Mrs. Murphy stated the engineer would need to see T-Mobile’s
studies before a Public Hearing. Mr. Davis stated he would
submit those documents to the Town Engineer for review. Mr.
McNamara stated that there will be a Type I action and a
coordinated review will be needed for SEQR purposes. Mr.
Watts asked Mr. Williams what the status was with Clifton
Park and DOT on this project. Mr. Williams stated Clifton
Park has reviewed the application and responded with no
comment and there has no response for DOT. Mr. Davis stated
that he would submit the application to DOT. Mr. Davis asked
if a balloon test would be required to simulate the height
of the proposed tower. Mrs. Murphy stated the Board, for
visual impact, would require a balloon test. Mr. Williams
stated in past cell tower projects there was a committee
review team that observed the balloon test. Mr. Davis stated
they could put a notice in the newspaper and notify the
committee review team when the balloon test will be done and
for how long. Mr. Davis stated that if the balloon test
could be done between now and the next meeting, then
T-Mobile would be interested in doing the test if it is
agreeable with the Board. Mr. Watts stated the Board is
agreeable with having the test done before the next meeting.
This item was tabled and referred to Mike McNamara of EDP
for review.
05.162 NB County Waste, 1927 Route 9 – Commercial Site
Plan/GEIS
Mr. Joe Bianchine, of ABD Engineering, stated that about
1-1/2 years ago County Waste did receive site plan approval
for a project at their site and since that time have
received approvals from NYS DEC for the solid waste. Mr. Joe
Bianchine stated that County Waste now wished to modify
their approved site plan to introduce a fiber processing
building. Mr. Bianchine stated that County Waste currently
has trash pickup and recycling pickup. Mr. Bianchine stated
the fiber processing building would handle the curbside
recyclables such as: glass, platics, tin and paper. Mr.
Bianchine stated this processing was currently being done in
Schenectady, however, this facility will be taken by the
County of Schenectady and used for a maintenance facility
for the City of Schenectady. Mr. Bianchine stated the Port
of Albany currently does the paper recycling and the lease
terminates this year and the facility is now too small to
operate at that location. Mr. Bianchine stated that County
Waste proposes to consolidate their operations in a
40,000 SF building located at 1927 Route 9. Mr. Bianchine
stated that previously at this location on the site plan the
building was a maintenance facility for maintaining trucks.
Mr. Bianchine stated that the maintenance facility will
remain on the site but will be relocated near the welding
facility. Mr. Bianchine stated that a majority of the change
would occur within the Town of Clifton Park. Mr. Bianchine
stated last Tuesday evening they received a use variance
from the Town of Clifton due to the site being in a Light
Industrial zoned area. Mr. Bianchine stated they would be
back for a site plan review at the Town of Clifton Park. Mr.
Bianchine stated that the changes in the Town of Halfmoon
are that a small portion of the building is within the Town
of Halfmoon. Mr. Bianchine stated that the C&D and MSW
processing buildings are currently located 30 FT. north and
would be shifted down to create circulation with their
trucks. Mr. Bianchine stated they have modified the storm
water detention basin to meet the current storm water
regulations. Mr. Bianchine stated the addition on the office
building would remain the same; the outside recycling area
that is currently used is proposed to be removed and
relocate to the new building. The welding and truck wash
building’ along with the office addition will remain the
same. Mr. Bianchine stated the only change to occur in the
Town of Halfmoon is the building relocations, grading and
storm water management area changes. Mr. Higgins asked if
the current buffering would be filled in as most of the year
you can see right into the site. Mr. Bianchine stated they
are proposing a heavy buffering of evergreen trees and the
gap would be filled in. Mr. Higgins stated that the previous
maintenance building in the rear was much larger than the
proposed building. Mr. Scott Earl, owner, stated since the
last meeting they have sold approximately 60 trucks/tractor
trailers and that work has now been outsourced. Mr. Earl
stated the change in recycling allows them to stop shipment
of recycling in and out of the facility. Mr. Earl stated
currently all the collection trucks empty into a bunker and
then it is trucked out by tractor-trailer to Rotterdam and
Albany. Mr. Earl stated the proposed project would create
approximately 40 new jobs. Mr. Higgins stated in the upper
corner of the site there was a gate that went out towards
Tabor Road. Mr. Higgins stated the gate has been taken down
and there is work going on. Mr. Earl stated the gate is
being relocated further back on the property to allow for
temporary storage of the trailers while the building is
under construction. Mr. Higgins asked if they would be using
the Tabor Road access. Mr. Earl stated they maintain the
access strictly for Shenendehowa Central School District
because the school buses have a problem with the crossing on
Tabor Road and the buses are not allowed to back up or go
around the crossing. Mr. Ruchlicki stated that he and Mrs.
Patenaude had previously been the committee for the project
on the last revision and asked Mr. Watts if they could make
a return visit to the site. Mr. Watts stated yes. Mr. Watts
asked Mr. Williams if he had referred the project to the
Saratoga County Planning. Mr. Williams stated yes.
Mr. Roberts made a motion to accept lead agency for SEQR
purposes and asked CHA to send out notices. Mr. Nadeau
seconded. Motion carried.
This item was tabled and referred to CHA for review.
05.163 NB The Beauty Parlour, 1548 Route 9 – Sign
Ms. Joane Mastroianni, the applicant, proposes an increase
to her currently signage for the Beauty Parlour located at
1548 Route 9. Mr. Roberts stated the applicant proposes a 10
FT. by 3 FT. sign. Ms. Mastroianni stated that was correct.
Mr. Roberts asked if the sign would be internally lit with
no neon. Ms. Mastroianni stated the sign would be internally
lit as the existing sign and there would be no neon. Mr.
Roberts asked if the current location formerly had 2 uses
and now is only utilized by one tenant. Ms. Mastroianni
stated that was correct. Mr. Roberts stated that in the
future if there are 2 uses the signage could not be
increased. Ms. Mastroianni stated she now occupies the
entire building. Mr. Roberts stated there could be no
banners on the windows or any sandwich board signs.
Mr. Roberts made a motion to approve the Sign application
for The Beauty Parlour with the condition that the approved
sign will not be enlarged for any future tenant and the
approval is contingent upon no banner signs or sandwich
board signs. Mr. Ruchlicki seconded. Motion carried.
05.164 NB Dudek Dairy Farm, 127 Brookwood Road – Minor
Subdivision
Mrs. Barbara Dudek proposes a Minor Subdivision for Dudek’s
Dairy Farm located on 127 Brookwood Road. Mrs. Dudek stated
that they are proposing to convey property to Carver Sand &
Gravel. Mr. Watts asked what Carver’s purpose was for
purchasing the land. Mrs. Dudek stated she was unaware what
Carver intended to do with the property. Mr. Williams stated
the subdivision plans indicated a “Deep Ravine” on the
parcel. Mr. Roberts asked Mrs. Dudek if the parcel had been
subdivided in the past. Mrs. Dudek stated that it has been.
Mrs. Murphy stated that the Board had to look at how many
times this parcel has been subdivided and whether this
project should be treated as a Major Subdivision because of
the number subdivisions done in the past. Mr. Nadeau asked
who was submitting the application. Mrs. Dudek stated that
it was Carver’s application. Mr. Watts stated that the
number of subdivisions on the Dudek property had to be
researched and there would have to be someone representing
the proposed subdivision. Mrs. Dudek stated that she was the
applicant.
This item was tabled for review of the number of subdivision
05.165 NB Country Club Acres, Inc., Vosburgh Road – Minor
Subdivision
Mr. Dave Flanders, of David A. Flanders Associates, proposes
a Minor Subdivision on a 59.5-acre parcel located on the
southerly side of Vosburgh Road. Mr. Flanders stated the
Vosburgh Trailer Park is located to the west of the parcel,
to the east was lands of Country Club Acres and parcel to
the south is owned by Joseph Kapenos. Mr. Flanders stated
the adjoining land to the east and south has been presented
to the Board as a conceptual subdivision by Ivan Zdrahal.
Mr. Flanders stated the 59.5-acre parcel has extensive
wetlands that exist on the property. Mr. Flanders the
northerly limits of the wetlands has been delineated on the
map along with the NYS DEC buffer strip. Mr. Flanders stated
they have not made an attempt to delineate lands south of
those boundaries as they have no intension of developing the
land nor is there adequate access to the remaining portion
of the land. Mr. Flanders stated the parcel also has a
utility easement owned Adirondack Power Corporation that
runs through the property. Mr. Flanders stated they are
proposing to divide the property into 2 individual lots. Mr.
Flanders stated that 1 lot will have an area of 16.1-acres
and the balance of the property would be 43.1-acres. Mr.
Flanders stated that water would be provided by the Town’s
municipal system and there would be an on-site septic
system. Mr. Flanders stated that they would be doing a
percolation test. Mr. Flanders stated there is an existing
driveway and they intend to use that same general strip and
create an ingress/egress easement 40 FT. wide for the
improvement of that driveway. Mr. Flanders stated the
installation of the water main would service 2 houses and
the 40 FT. strip will go to the common division line to
provide access for both drives and the utilities to the
43.1-acre parcel. Mr. Flanders stated there is a portion of
the NYS DEC buffer strip in the area where the driveway is
located. Mr. Flanders stated they are applying to DEC for a
permit for driveway disturbance for the buffer area. Mr.
Nadeau asked Mr. Flanders to explain where there was no
further access to the land. Mr. Flanders stated the frontage
of Vosburgh Road was just shy of 300 FT. so therefore they
could only have 2 lots. Mr. Flanders stated that there is no
other access by any of the other adjoining lands so they
could not develop any more lots. Mr. Flanders stated there
is no proposed road that they are aware of coming into the
parcel and the other area has extensive wetlands. Mr.
Flanders stated there was 142 FT. of frontage on Vosburgh
Road and the other lot has 150 FT. of frontage. Mr. Nadeau
asked if there was water and sewer on Vosburgh Road. Mr.
Flanders stated there was water. Mr. Higgins asked if this
parcel was the piece of property that the applicant had
discussed with the Town as possible parklands. Mr. Polak
stated that parcel is across the road to the east. Mrs.
Wormuth stated that the applicant has approached the Town
Board and asked that the Town Board look at this with the
engineers to see whether or not the Town would be interested
in utilizing or finding access to the back of the parcel for
possible Town use through another piece of the property.
Mrs. Wormuth stated that because this is the first time the
application has been before the Board, it has not been
before the Board in another form as a PDD. Mrs. Wormuth
stated that they would ask the engineers to review and
discuss with the applicant. Mrs. Wormuth stated this would
be subsequent to this action and should have no impact on
how the Planning Board proceeds with this proposal. Mr.
Higgins stated during the GEIS some of this property was
discussed for a potential town park.
Mr. Roberts made a motion to set a Public Hearing for the
June 13, 2005 Planning Board Meeting. Mr. Higgins seconded.
Motion carried.
05.166 NB Safe-N-Sound Self-Storage, Routes 4 & 32 – Concept
Commercial
Site Plan
Mr. Mike Sykes stated he would be representing the
applicant, Anthony Grande, who is conceptually proposing a
self-storage business located at Routes 4 & 32. Mr. Sykes
stated the proposed facility would consist of a small office
in the front of one of the buildings, 28 heated storage
units in one building and the remainder would be 210
unheated storage units. Mr. Sykes stated there would be Town
water and on-site septic. Mr. Sykes stated they are
proposing storm water at the low point to the rear of the
property. Mr. Polak asked if there has wetland delineation.
Mr. Sykes stated the wetlands have not been delineation as
of yet. Mr. Sykes stated there is small stream located on
the property. Mr. Polak stated there was an issue close to
the proposed property where three-quarters of the land could
not be developed due to wetlands and recommended that the
applicant look into the situation before the project
progresses. Mr. Watts asked who owned the property. Mr.
Grande stated that he owns the land and Mr. Abele was the
previously owner. Mr. Watts stated the board would need
significantly more information regarding this project such
as: intensity of use, architectural renderings for the
buildings and proposed buffering. Mr. Nadeau stated there
are historical buildings located near the proposed site. Mr.
Watts stated the architecture of the proposed buildings
would be important due to the historical buildings in the
area. Mr. Higgins stated that if the entire parcel is now
owned by Mr. Grande then the maps should be redone to
signify subdivisions of the lands.
This item was tabled and referred to CHA for review.
05.167 NB Suchocki Subdivision, 51 Harris Road – Minor
Subdivision
Ms. Joann Suchocki stated she will be representing her
father, William Suchocki, a proposal for a Minor Subdivision
located on the east side of Harris Road. Ms. Suchocki stated
they propose to subdivide a 2.14-acre parcel from the
existing 216-acre farm for a single-family home. Ms.
Suchocki stated they propose to hook into the County sewer
and Town water. Mr. Nadeau asked what the acreage would be
for the remaining lands. Ms. Suchocki stated approximately
213-acres. Mr. Higgins asked if the sewer is force main or
gravity. Ms. Suchocki stated she believed it was gravity.
Mr. Polak stated the gravity system was recently installed.
Mr. Ruchlicki made a motion to set a Public Hearing for the
June 13, 2005 Planning Board Meeting. Mr. Higgins seconded.
Motion carried.
Mr. Ruchlicki made a motion to adjourn the May 23, 2005
Planning Board Meeting at 9:10 pm. Mr. Roberts seconded.
Motion carried.
Respectfully Submitted,
Milly Pascuzzi
Planning Board Secretary
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